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[Just want to add in my 2cents that after I got out of the Army in Elpaso Tx, I was at the University of Elpaso Texas (UTEP) to join the football team and was there at the same time Tim Hardaway was. I was caught off guard watching ESPN one night and heard his comments on a radio show and was ticked off at the Radio announcers comments of Tim being "Homophobic" and Tim unwisely accepting that label. Now I do not agree with Tim stating he "Hated Gays" but I feel he was not meaning hate as far as kill, destroy etc. I do relate and understand his comments of not wanting to be in the same shower room etc.
I feel that Tim is being made an example of and I recall in 2006 a few comments of noted white people about black people and most white people in certain postions blowing off their comments stating comments by certain white folks being exaggerated by black people and taken out of context like recent comments about Barack Osama. At the bottom of this article on Tim's comments, I have copy/pasted the repercussions against him, now think about repercussions against others of non-black culture... Hint, they were never censured, totally blocked or locked out of their field etc.]

Retired Miami Heat guard Tim Hardaway, known for his candor, said on a radio show Wednesday that he would not want a gay player on his team, would ask for him to be traded, and went so far as to say: ``You know, I hate gay people, so I let it be known. I don't like gay people and I don't like to be around gay people. I am homophobic. I don't like it. It shouldn't be in the world or in the United States.''

Hardaway was a guest with host/Herald columnist Dan Le Batard on Sports Talk 790 The Ticket, and at the end of the interview, Le Batard asked Hardaway how he would deal with a gay player, in light of last week's disclosure by retired NBA center John Amaechi that he is gay.

''First of all, I wouldn't want him on my team,'' Hardaway replied. ``And second of all, if he was on my team, I would really distance myself from him because, uh, I don't think that is right. I don't think he should be in the locker room while we are in the locker room. But stuff like that is going on and there's a lot of other people I hear that are like that and still in the closet and don't want to come out of the closet, but you know I just leave that alone.''

Asked what he would do if he had a gay teammate, Hardaway said he would ask for the player to be traded or to be bought out of his contract.

''Something has to give,'' he said. ``And I think the majority of players would ask for him to be traded or they would want to be traded. Or buy him out of his contract and just let him go. Something has to give. If you have 12 other ballplayers in your locker room that are upset and can't concentrate and always worried about him in the locker room or on the court it's going to be hard for your teammates to win and accept him as a teammate.''

Hardaway is the first NBA player -- current or former -- to make anti-gay statements since Amaechi's news came out. In fact, most of the players and coaches quoted last week, including Heat center Shaquille O'Neal, were supportive of Amaechi and said they would not be bothered by a gay teammate.

What if the gay player were a great player, Hardaway was asked.

''If he were that great something would still have to give,'' he said. ``People would feel uncomfortable with that. If you're not gay, nobody in that locker room would feel comfortable with that person on your team.''

Amaechi probably will not be surprised when he reads Hardaway's comments. He said in a phone interview Tuesday he believes there is still a lot of homophobia in society and in professional sports locker rooms.

''We are much further behind than I'd like,'' Amaechi said. ``People in America and England [where Amaechi grew up] would like to think racism is over, s*xism is over, and homophobia is over, but it's not. My coming out will show that gay people don't all look like Jack from Will and Grace. Some of us are big, athletic men, and that should be OK.''

Amaechi said he had not heard from a single former teammate or NBA player, that he had only heard from former coach Doc Rivers. He challenged straight athletes ''who feel able'' to stand up for gay rights.

''I would like professional male athletes to be active supporters, and that doesn't mean putting a rainbow decal on their car,'' he said. ``It means letting other guys in the locker room know that it's not OK to make gay jokes, that it's hurtful, and that it's not OK to be homophobic.

``But it's hard to get straight guys to step up. When men stood by women during the suffrage movement, they were called progressive and bold. When whites stood by blacks, they were heroes. But a straight guy standing up for a gay guy faces discrimination, and that's a big part of the battle we're fighting.''

REPERCUSSIONS AGAINST TIM HARDAWAY:
Hardaway's gay bashing brings swift rebuke
Former pro basketball player Tim Hardaway felt heat from all sides one day after making anti-gay comments.
BY BARRY JACKSON AND STEVE ROTHAUS, srothaus@MiamiHerald.com
A day after declaring ''I hate gay people'' on a South Florida radio show, former Miami Heat guard Tim Hardaway was banned from this weekend's NBA All-Star Game activities, lost a national endorsement deal and drew intense criticism from gay-rights advocates.
Posted By: WILLIAM W. HEMMANS III
Friday, February 16th 2007 at 2:13PM
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Hello Mr. Tremayne Robertson, appreciate the comments.
Feel free to look up the article on line "When heteros*xuals are in the minority", maybe you will come up with an excuse for that.
There are different forms of hate, do I really dislike what you are doing because it is pushed off on me or do I want to kill you etc. Have you ever used the word hate before or told someone or felt that you hated the person, does that make you a personaphob about the individual?
Would a woman be comfortable taking a shower with a rapist or a child taking a shower with a child molestor? I relate that last sentence to how many men would be comfortable taking a shower with someone that is attracted to them of the same s*x? Are you saying you are not a homophob because you would not mind taking a shower with a homos*xual? Would you do it and one of the questions that I had for those males against Tim was "would any of you take a shower with a homos*xual in the same facility because you are soo sure of your malehood? That is a natural biological instinct in men not to feel comfortable with that if straight and the same for a female. I have a dog that does not potty in the yard (glad of that), that runs into the woods when I walk him, why? Because my dog does not want anyone to see him using the bathroom whether it be humans or other dogs. This is why most dogs go to bushes or trees and this is instinctive with animals let alone us as human beings. Also Mr. Robertson, as a man, if I take a shower with a bunch of females, I will be instantly turned on and would take or be tempted to take a peek, that is natural as well as if a female were to take a shower with a bunch of males. Ove in Germany by the way, some facilities are male and female.
Now maybe you will come back and tell me you are such a man that you would not mind taking a shower with a bunch of females and you would not be tempted to look or turned on at all (just keeping it real Bro, no pun intended).
And by the way Mr. Robertson, I did mention and you skipped the details and I could bring up a whole slew of examples, white folks say things all the time and they get blown off, remember the comments about "crime would go down if black people committed more abortions?" Or Trent Lott stating the U.S. would have been better off if Senator Strom had been President and his state voted for him? Oh by the way, Senator Strom as a grown man impregnated a black child...
None of them lost the means to make a living or were banned from anything, you skip the majority of what I stated and comment on one aspect of what you don't know about Tim Hardaway, he was never asked to expound on what he meant even though I state that was very unwise for him to say what he said the way he said it.
I see Tim as a man that is tired of homos*xuality being pushed off and if one does not agree they are branded. By the way online there are whole websites of people that stated they were heteros*xual in response to being encouraged by homos*xuals to state they were gay, this is being black-balled. Any celebrity that states they are not for the gay lifestyle no matter how passive or respectful they come across is branded and attacked. I can go much deeper here.
Also if you believe in God or the Bible read Romans 1:27 all the way to the end sometime and maybe look up some of those definitions. Scripture states the hate is not coming from heteros*xuals but is coming from homos*xuals who even in scripture are not stated as positive but attacking, the instance when Lot and the 2 angels were under threat and danger from the males of Sodom and Gomorrah and surrounding cities is only one example and one other thing note worthy was that Lot in desperation threw his virgin teenage daughters out to them and they brutalized the young ladies. Homos*xual men want the men and lesbian women want the women but they want to be male and the main gender left out in the cold are the women...
Anyway, I can go all day off of this.
By the way, I hate squash, so am I a squashaphobic? How about rape, murder and child molesters? I hate what they do also, so I am a rapeaphobic, murderaphobic and child molesteraphobic, I guess that makes me a bad person as well and there is a difference between an opinion and judgement. Homophobic is a word to make people feel guilty and be forced to not only accept but to be a part of.
And Mr. Roberston are you black? You compare slavery (or imply), or the holocaust of the jews or what happened to Indians as part of your equation of "hierchy of oppression"??? Those people had no choice and one can't flaunt what one is as a gender...
Peace
Tuesday, February 20th 2007 at 2:14PM
WILLIAM W. HEMMANS III
Hi Wayne, thank you for your comments and I agree with what you are saying and I know you are doing the same but...
Respectfully from a Spiritual perspective I don't believe in the name calling or the profanity.
Yes the issue of the attempts to be forced to accept what is wrong can/does anger people and few speak out and many do not (but they agree in silence...).
I can say soo much on this issue and I have told people that satan is already the prince of the earth and air for the time being (but he still comes under God & Jesus), they don't need excuses by people who do not agree but want to be accepted or go along with.
I just happened to be looking up information on T.D. Jakes and Bishop Eddie Long and I see where blogs by the homos*xual community have been started on them to pressure them to agree, accept and condone etc. ...
The most ironic thing that I see here Wayne is that anyone that comes out with agreement for homos*xuality receives rave reviews and amens from far more people than those who write opposite (not in aggreement points of views...).
Peace Bro, stand for your beliefs and I know you mean well along with the intelligence that you have. Also positive spirituality not to (and I know its not always easy) fall into the negative nicknames used against straight people, i.e. "breeders". Why would homos*xuals be against people that can breed by natural opposite s*x means? Hint, read Romans 1:27 all the way to the end again. Also I think somewhere in preceding verses there is scripture that shows this is a choice, not born.
Now if we can not get into Heaven with other sins such as lying, murder, stealing, fornication etc. Why are excuses being made for this by some, not all, but enough...?
Saturday, March 24th 2007 at 12:17PM
WILLIAM W. HEMMANS III
Tim Hardaway is afforded his 1st Amendment right to freely express his opinion. As a Soldier, I put my life on the line to protect this freedom. His only crime here is being honest.
Monday, September 17th 2007 at 12:59PM
Tony Perry
As an Ex GI, I relate to what you are saying Toney and I feel as you do that no crime was committed, opinions are welcomed by everyone except those who tell the truth...
Saturday, October 6th 2007 at 6:02AM
WILLIAM W. HEMMANS III
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