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Is Chivalry really a dying trait? (401 hits)

In a time of more and more advances in materialism, increasing violence, lower and lower self-esteem, morals etc.etc.etc. Do brothers feel less and less inclined to be chivalrous due to the females fault in general?
How do women feel on this subject?
Many say but are not, "People create the reality that many perceive".
Feel free to holla on such a huge more than common issue.
Most brothers carry themselves the way they do because sistahs carry themselves the way they do.
I know this is a hot topic with many on both sides of the male and female gender.
I have some stories myself.
When I played around, there were extenuating factors though we all have choices.
Posted By: WILLIAM W. HEMMANS III
Saturday, February 4th 2006 at 3:41PM
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i think that it all depends on the person. I know that some Men dont treat women with respect because of the way that females carry themselves. I think that it works both ways, you get what you put out and the end result can be whay you make it.... thats just my take. Some guys have perceptions about women and how to treat them... good luck with your inquiery....
Monday, February 6th 2006 at 1:33AM
Tiara J
It depends on the principles of the individual. I feel a man should respect ALL women not just those we approve of. There is a reason that that female acts the way she does maybe she doesnt expect to be treated with chivialry so she acts out, i dont know. That still isnt an excuse for men to stoop to a lower standard. We should be beacons of princple in the sea of the lost.
Monday, February 6th 2006 at 6:07PM
Isaac A. Artis, III
Hey Tiara, deep, I appreciate the sincerity and knowledge that You share. I agree with You.
I also appreciate the well wishes of what I inquire, there are a whiole lot of sistahs that will curse out a brutha for being kind and then state no good men are out there. The average man really feels this way.
Monday, February 6th 2006 at 8:05PM
WILLIAM W. HEMMANS III
Hey wassup Ike, appreciate Your comments.
You know we are cool so here goes my comments.

I appreciate what You have to say, yes there has to be a standard. You know why I relate to so many people? Because what You always have to say from what I have known you to say are those perfect politically correct never done anything wrong and all was perfect and raised by this way and that way way that are not what I have known, is not what the world is dealing with everyday and people don't come or stand as correct as your statements say.

Even God recognized and recorded in the Bible people that grew and reacted to what they encountered in their environment, Jesus was sympathetic to those sinners and shied away from those Pharasees and sadducees who claimed perfection but were whitewashed tombs, Jephthah ran the country side with vain men, why do You think so? God Blessed him also. David ran with vain people, why do you think so?
If You hang with vain people don't think those great patriarchs and matriarchs of the Bible did not do the same.

I can tell you about my 1st 2 girlfriends that dogged me, I was green and did not believe in s*x before marriage, the 1st was on a record label by a guy who I went to school with and played Pro-football, you can deduce the rest of the story from there, the 2nd girl I flew home from Germany to marry, she had hickey's on her neck. This was after I encountered massive teasing by the guys in the Army just like what You saw in the Antoinne Fisher story, I remember going to Daytona Beach weekend and being teased by a girl who said I sounded white when I asked her "May I take your picture. My cousin talked to her like a thug and she showed it all she was a beautiful girl.

I have a saying that "Every prostitute was a virgin once". What went wrong? Jesus sympathized with that and not standards.

Yes we should be as beacons but when there is no father figure, no mother figure, no Church standard, your peers are doing this and doing that, when you have no one to turn to in the knowledge that one knows at an early age, when the women the female adults in my life telling me what I should do and be... Man I have a million stories to write about and I share them and am straight up for a reason, no whitewashed tomb stuff that I have never done anything wrong and post comments to others that I think have done things wrong etc.

I post and write many things from many angles...
This is reality what I write and most brothers and sisters I know, well lets just say I hear it all the time i.e. no good black men around, all men are dogs, sistahs this and sistahs that etc.
If we do not talk about the reasons and put these perfectionistic standards, people don't relate or feel ashamed to say anything thus continue to do what they do thus continued risings of std's, birth rates, s*xual violence etc.
I post real and not just theory.
What you respond with is good, I commend the stance, but billions of people according to where they are at as where I was at during young ages and I still struggle with well....

You can't relate to that because You married and are happily ever after. Man the world got a piece of what I treated as a model of the Bible in those 1st to girlfriends that wanted to come back years later as being used up and then feel I am stuck up, how selfish.

Listen to the world that states, "I want a thug..., I want a bad boy...., thats way more than average, to be kind and I do carry myself as such is harder than being the bad boy as I was, believe me I got my respect and paybacks started on that 8+ plane ride back to germany after Josetta dogged me out like that. I was a changed male when I got back to Germany.
I plan to write a blog on that, put it like this, when I got through fighting and learning how to womanize, I was not the nerd anymore, I became the go to guy and it felt good, it really did, for a while... I never stated I hated what I was doing, I state I have my regrets over the few good ones I hurt... Long story of course.
My question is, is there anything You struggle with brutha that You can admit as I do on here.
believe me it is not easy for me to post and tell my business. I call people like that real and strong on this site and in the world that do.

By the way it is above average female that falls regularly for the guys that lie to them burn them, have babies on them etc. Why, because they lie, I come out and be real and tell the truth and receive much less attention and respect in the aspects of desiring the one for me. ironic isn't it...
Peace
William

p.s. Please no pun taken, I am not angry, tonality is hard to discern on a computer screen, if we were in person I would be as cool, comfortable and friendly as I am presently, we need these differing points of views.
Monday, February 6th 2006 at 8:19PM
WILLIAM W. HEMMANS III
By the way, man I am influenced to be on a roll, Lol!
It is the sistah's around here that question my manhood and s*xuality because I refuse to sleep around again, I mean after my well known history? A few brotha's that don't know me will question off of what some sistah's say, because I won't sleep around with them and I mean some sistah's from the Church, even a female minister that was attractive but not for me who came knocking on my door early on a monday a.m. after I heard her preach that Sunday before.
Ike you are not me and I am not You and we don't deal in the same circumstances but we both live in the same world.
Can you imagine how that feels for a female to inquire if you are gay?
And if You were single bro, come on and get real man... You struggle with seeing other females out there also, if You have eyes.
I leave that one alone. Respectfully.
Monday, February 6th 2006 at 8:27PM
WILLIAM W. HEMMANS III
well as you stated we all live in the same world and deal with alot of the same issues. I have come to that familiar cross roads where I had to decide how I WAS GOING TO TREAT WOMEN. I to saw that the worse you treated women the more they seemed to like you, so I decided to give it a try. AND IT WORKED!!! Alot of my female friends saw through this facade and said that it was fake and I sould be me. My feelings were this new Ike was working like gangbusters. However when I look back at the quality of what I had I will be the first to admit the it was lack luster at best.

It wasnt until I grew up alittle and decided to be more me than thug I would get what I really desired. But to answer your question Chilvary is not dead. but here is a question for you. DO YOU THINK CHILVARY IS ANY LESS THAN IN THE PAST?
Tuesday, February 7th 2006 at 5:21PM
Isaac A. Artis, III
Hey Ike, I have to agree with You bro, there is nothing I can add or take away from what You just wrote.
I do believe as times advance that chivalry is less.
I also dealt with some of the same experiences as far as carrying myself a certain way and certain people could see right past it.
What hurts me the most is the few that saw past it are the ones I hurt the most, how ironic.
There is nothing like sowing. reaping and regreting bro.
I have to always live that down until God sends again if He ever chooses again, I can pray and complain but the word that comes to me is I gave You William when You were not doing the right things and now You say You are....
Feel me Bro?
Appreciate the comments Bro.
I am a very chivalrous man by the way and I have a few stories of the negative but of course that does not over shadow all.
Peace take care.
Tuesday, February 7th 2006 at 5:32PM
WILLIAM W. HEMMANS III
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