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Tammy Bruce Calls Michelle Obama "Trash in the White House." (5327 hits)

Tammy Bruce, guest host for Laura Ingram's radio show, had some harsh words for First Lady Michelle Obama.

Discussing the first lady's visit to a Washington D.C. classroom last week, Bruce incredulously recalled Obama's story about wanting to get A's in school and called out her use of a "weird, fake accent."

"That's what he's married to," Bruce said. "...You know what we've got? We've got trash in the White House. Trash is a thing that is colorblind, it can cross all eco-socionomic...categories. You can work on Wall Street, or you can work at the Wal-Mart. Trash, are people who use other people to get things, who patronize others, who consider you bitter and clingy..."

What is the subtext here? "that's who he is married to.? so who should he be married to white girl? a white girl? These kinds of words have never been publicly lobbied against a sitting First Lady. This started when brother Mozell brought to my attention that Michelle Obama made a statement about speaking white and the kIng's English.

I have watched her make errors while speaking in public. You cannot talk "sista talk" to the media. I know she means well, but it isn't the first time, am thinking "please stick to gardening, the latest style and rearing Malia and Sasha."

This annoys me on two levels,there are sisters walking around here talking about, I'm Black, my community is black and I support black, okay then let me see you sit down and write a letter in support of our beautiful "black sister".

Lip service, dis-unity, self-oriented. Soul? what soul? people with a soul speak out. Strong? people with strength write letters, make calls, join up and smash the offending force.

I had to delete a stupid e-mail from a woman on this site, who wants to let me know how Black she is, oh please. It's not just about buying black, living in a black community it's more than that.Right now, white folks are leading and defending Obama.

Sisters don't come together as a social-political force because there is no love it's just talk.
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Monday, March 23rd 2009 at 5:36PM
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She is ignorant.
Monday, March 23rd 2009 at 5:56PM
She is dangerous.
Monday, March 23rd 2009 at 6:04PM
Marta Fernandez
I am livid!!! I would really like to put "a real beat down on this chick!! I really don't get her.
Please correct me if I am wrong, but I have always been under the impression that trash was a derogatory term that other white use for other white people who are either poor, uneducated, or both. In the south the term is "poor white trash"
or "trailor park trash".
So for this clueless chick to attempt to label First Lady Obama as trash, I am really not getting it!! I still would like to put a real "beat down" on her right about now.

..."that Michelle Obama made a statement about speaking white and the kIng's English"...

I missed out on this ...what did First Lady Obama say?
Tuesday, March 24th 2009 at 12:25AM
Jen Fad
Sounds like a Hater to me! Its a fact people that hate on you pay extremly close attention sort of like a micro- scope. The first lady must be doing somthing right because you always are when a person that doese not even know you is talking sh%$ ! Maby she just wants to be known! After her bowel movement from her mouth I know her now!
Tuesday, March 24th 2009 at 9:12AM
Why do people think when a person speaks proper english you are trying to act white? Boy White folks have to be flattered. I forgot to mention that I think hatred is a form of flattery.
Tuesday, March 24th 2009 at 9:16AM

Hello Jen,

Please let me explain from a political perspective. You are quite correct in your understanding . " when she was little she said she was accused of talking white, and she said she was going to get her A" her parents probably supported that, and it probably helped her in law school. She may have wanted to stem the tide of ebonics or she may have wanted to make another child who would be called out like that to feel that it is ok for he/she to "speak white" which means speaking standard English.

Tammy's strategy is to "take her down a notch'" to get that uppity n* of her high horse, to resonate and connect with her white trash audience, to say look she is a phony, she is not a high fallutin Black like her husband, the media manipulation is harsh and fueled by telling lies and having your followers believe it. They know that their audience is ignorant and uninformed so they take advantage of it.

More than a million "white folks " on her show who are lower class now have heard this, and this site with about 10 thousand people want to cover their ears, there are the kinds of whites I had to contend this at the local coffee shop that I finally broke away from after a customers comment on Islam. These smart aleck white folks who think they know everything did not even know that Condoleeza Rice was the Secretary of State last year. Some of these under educated whites make 80k a year working where? in civil Service jobs along Black folk who speak poor English. She made a statement that made millions of whites happy endeared her to her listeners got her some attention , and basically in a white girl in your face move is saying "so whatcha gonna do about it"?

Watch the other white folks on the Obama team start writing petitions. I feel so bad.
I hope this helped to give this issue some perspective for you.
Tuesday, March 24th 2009 at 9:47AM
Marta Fernandez
have been hearing this since forever. I was told I talk white,but I let that roll off since I had to learn English it would be kind of dumb to learn it improperly.I also realize that assumptions were made as to who I am. I have lots of wonderful Black American friends who do not speak standard English, I don't judge them that's their choice. Some Black folks who are surrounded by the typical valley girl speech patterns and inflections pick the intonations,so?I blogged on these issues a long itme ago. Marketing consists of word or words that evoke an emotion whether the allegation or charge is correct or not such a s "hater" for example. :-)
Tuesday, March 24th 2009 at 10:20AM
Marta Fernandez
First of all, who the hell is Tammy Bruce, and why should anyone outside of her knuckle-dragging, mouth breathing listeners give a rat’s behind what she thinks? She’s a zero!

Anyone who can look at Michelle and not see class wouldn’t know what class was if it bit ‘em in the behind! Bruce herself is a lowlife, and like Corey said, she’s hating.

Bruce, as does the tramp Ingraham (and I’m not just calling names!), “Man” Coulter and all the rest of them; know they can’t hold a candle to Michelle, so they will say anything. Saying Michelle is trash is like saying Muhammed Ali couldn’t fight; no one takes that seriously. They don’t even believe what they’re saying, but as someone else said, that’s what these people do; they lie to their idiot followers, keeping them stupid as stupidity is in their best interests. That should tell you all you need to know about them.

As for “talking white,” (I’m sputtering now) how in God’s name is it in anyone’s benefit, particularly anyone black, to define the speaking of proper English as white? Michelle was raised like a lot of us, to excel in school, get the “A” and that meant English too. So am I not authentically black unless I get all As in every subject, and flunk English? It’s absolutely crazy. Hell, if speaking proper English was white, then there are a heck of a lot of black white people! The “valley girl” who uses “like” 20 times in every sentence does not speak proper English!

Lastly, it can hardly be said that Michele Obama is just riding her husband’s coattails. She hired HIM at the law firm here in Chicago, when Obama first came to town. She was already an associate there. When Obama was in the state senate, it was Michele who was the breadwinner of the family. People here in Chicago who know the Obamas, she’s the business and social elite, look at the Tammy Bruces as someone might look at a piece of gum stuck to the bottom of their shoe. You brush that crap off and keep going!

Tuesday, March 24th 2009 at 10:37AM
In the money-world of America you are never a zero when you have a million followers. Get real as if as a businessman didn't understand the bottom line, your reaction surprises me, as if not knowing what they are up to and how they can use this fodder to fuel rage amongst the Evangelicals frankly has left me wondering.

I understand the need to vent,as I do it when something really gets to me,but to just talk about this Tammy Bruce as if she wields no power is not understandable to me. Right now she has more power and pull than any of us and that is a wrap.

I didn't know who she was before, but I do now and that's a good thing, keep your enemies close,gosh didn't you read "The Art of War?"..oh I forgot you are an engineer. The Valley girl; that I have heard in young Black women does not use "like" Clark, she just has that high whinny voice, and says "thank you" about ten decibels high. There are a lot of black white people and white black people ,love your inputs, I'd just wish you stop trying to earn brownie points, nor am I going to kiss a** to get along ,I am not afraid of the dumb stuff from White , Black or Latino people. Which is why I don't join lynching mobs from either side.

When you get your head clear, come back and take a different perspective, the politcal and marketing there is nothing new that you wrote about Michelle Obama that we didn't already know. I don't recall her being a "partner" in the law firm she worked at. Here is the facts: Career in Corporate Law:
After graduating from Harvard Law School, Michelle joined the law firm of Sidley Austin as an associate specializing in marketing and intellectual property. In 1988, a summer intern two years older by the name of Barack Obama came to work at the firm, and Michelle was assigned as his mentor.

See this is what happens, when you assume your Black Sisters are not onthe ball--I do my research..so people just talk,talk talk--but I know you love our First Lady just as I do so I will give you a break! lol (you better act like you know) as my eldest always tells me!

I strongly suggest that you stop assuming that you are talking to everyday Jane.
Tuesday, March 24th 2009 at 12:23PM
Marta Fernandez
Going to get in where I fit in right here. If Mrs. Obama made a mistake by telling the truth i can and will accept iy at face value. it appears that many are confused about this issue. Some say that talking white is a compliment, others say it is neccasary to succeed in their/our world. The offense and i choose words the offense is not new nor news. We open ourselves up to this types of attacks when we say dumb stuff like talking white. Once again i will attempt to put this into my prospective. Talking white is not the vocabulary its the tone. If I say it to you in a timber of a siste/brother no matter what word it is you would hear and understand...but if i use white inflection white folk tones you would be justified to say i am talking white. It is an effort you make to talk white. Just like you can speak s*xy for that special someone you can talk white around folk you want to look up or at lest eye to eye to you. When you with the girls..unless they white...you be you. Thats just a lil ebonics if you think so. Sure I left out an adjative, participle adverd or any number of arcane grammericly correct things. But you hear and understand me loud and Clear. Mrs. Obama is not perfect. She knew she was talking white. She knows she basically told those kids if you want an A you need to talk white...When she could have just as easily stated..."Children you must annunciate correctly ,if you want to recieve an A on the assignment." Is that correct grammer? Punctuation?
Tuesday, March 24th 2009 at 1:32PM
...Watch the other white folks on the Obama team start writing petitions. I feel so bad.
I hope this helped to give this issue some perspective for you...

Absolutely helped... and I would like to sign the petition. Please let me know where I can sign it. I don't think this woman should be ignored. She should be reprimanded and embarrassed as well as she should issue a formal apology to the nation. I refuse to ignore her bigotry. Why should I?? I feel insulted as a woman of color and this nonsense should not go with black folk being apathetic!!

Tuesday, March 24th 2009 at 1:43PM
Jen Fad
...Although I didn't really get Rev. Wright...Fox News, CNN, Rush LAMEbaugh didn't keep silent... I'm still livid and my blood is boiling OVER!!
Tuesday, March 24th 2009 at 1:45PM
Jen Fad
Thank you--you are the only A.A. woman who has expressed some outrage and willing to do whatever, let me get back to you, as for that lameness on her being called a b word,that is par for the course business as usual this is different.

Give them a few days while they marshall their forces together. I will let you know. Thanks for sharing the pain.

Tuesday, March 24th 2009 at 3:30PM
Marta Fernandez
Trash is colorblind--trying to see what is underneath this statement. Is it all white trash are like n***? so my, followers are white, but we are not colorblind? as in we are white we want to take back our country. I have to go research the ultra-right, and kkk sites let's see what is at the bottom of this nasty lagoon. She has to be put in check, the same way they put Jesse in check for his "hymietown" remark.
Tuesday, March 24th 2009 at 3:39PM
Marta Fernandez
Hey Marta; “brownie points?” My God!

I think you misread me, and I’ll accept responsibility for that, but a million followers? There are a lot more well known leaders on the left and right who don’t lay claim to a million followers. Just like with Limbaugh, they say “he has 20 million listeners.” Does that mean Limbaugh can be Dracula to 20 million Renfields? No. A million radio listeners are not the same as a million members or followers.

I don’t like one bit what she said, its outrageous, etc. but I think we’re blowing this fool up into something bigger than she really is. This is who she is:

“In 1996, the NOW Executive Board voted nearly unanimously to censure Bruce for what it claimed were “racially insensitive comments” during the O.J. Simpson murder trial. After months of infighting, Bruce resigned as president of Los Angeles NOW in June 1996. [9] Bruce claimed that the censure was due to her focus on domestic violence, as opposed to defense attorney Johnnie Cochran’s ‘racial issues’ trial”

Bruce has no more power than we are willing to give her. I’ll let this commenter on Jack and Jill speak for me:

“Stay classy, Tammy, stay classy. Tammy Bruce's remarks indicate just how desperate conservative Republicans are. She and those like her should be embarrassed and ashamed. Their world is being threatened. The Obamas are not behaving according to their narrow black family stereotypes. As the Obamas gain and retain popularity, the foundation of conservativism begins to fall apart. Conservatives have nothing left. They have boxed themselves in. They are in desperate disarray, wandering aimlessly, looking to find leadership and a message. So every few days they create something outrageously ugly to draw attention to themselves, to feed the racism of their audiences, and to work on chipping away at the Obamas, searching for a point of weakness. Michelle's popularity is soaring. To many conservative women, this is a real threat. Michelle becomes the next target of attack. Imagine the outrage by Tammy Bruce, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingram and the bevy of Faux News babes had anyone called Laura Bush White House "trash" or accused her of having a phoney accent. It would be unAmerican, unpatriotic, and unChristian! These self-righteous, American family values hypocrites are nothing more than shrills, shills, and shams. As difficult as it is, they should be treated like common bullies. It is best to ignore them until they become rendered irrelevant. People like Tammy Bruce would rather ridicule and tear down what they cannot claim or control. That's why the conservatives are all hoping for President Obama to fail.”

Like I said, Bruce has no more power than we are willing to give her. They are desperate and want to draw us into this. No one is going to listen to the likes of her and think, just because she is saying it, that Michelle Obama is trash, no matter how many times she says it, marketing psychology and all the rest of it be damned. No one’s mind is going to be changed about Michele Obama that’s already been made up, based on the likes of Bruce. Bruce? Please! Go after her, yeah, but there are way bigger fish out there than this fool.

BTW, I did not say Michelle was a partner. But she did recommend Barack for hire at the firm.

Tuesday, March 24th 2009 at 5:28PM
BTW, Bruce crawled out from under her rock somewhere to stand in for Ingraham. Knowing this will probably be the only time she has in the sun; she took advantage and said something outrageous. She knows she’ll get batted around for it but don’t care, as it will keep her in the news a little while longer than 15 minutes.

Tuesday, March 24th 2009 at 5:35PM
BTW you said she HIRED him, my point that went over your head is that only partners at a firm do the hiring..but you wouldn't know that. I would. and I do.

It's your perception versus the power of the media. I do love the statement you attribute to Jack & Jill.
Tuesday, March 24th 2009 at 6:31PM
Marta Fernandez
....and you should blog the above. That was clear concise and you made the perfect analogy. Mel Gibson only uttered a scriptural writing. This is blasting the wife of a sitting President and as far as I am concerned it is not to be ignored. If I walk up to your wife and called her a name at an open meeting with lots of people around somebody is going to check me. It is NOT okay to insult Black women, and I feel the same way Jen does. It is not open season and she is not going to open the floodgates so someone else can come along and just say what they want in public about our First Lady.
Tuesday, March 24th 2009 at 11:36PM
Marta Fernandez
I was revising and deleted the statement you commented to above. I was trying to be sure of what Gibson said. What he said was even worse. He said Jews started all the wars, but anyways...there are lessons to be learned from the Jewish community.

Wednesday, March 25th 2009 at 12:10AM
Jen Fad
There are lessons that can be learned from the Jewish community. Jewish people take action when people make anti-Semitic comments by standing together to demand public apologies and cripple the financial means of that person. As big as Mel Gibson is, he was no match for the Jewish community. Gibson was reprimanded and called out on the carpet by the Jewish community for alleged anti-Semitic remarks he made while in a drunken stupor to a Jewish sherrif.

... {Abraham H. Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, called Gibson's apology "unremorseful and insufficient." Prominent Hollywood talent agent Ari Emanuel called for an industry boycott of Gibson in a blog posted Monday. "At a time of escalating tensions in the world, the entertainment industry cannot idly stand by and allow Mel Gibson to get away with such tragically inflammatory statements," he wrote. "People in the entertainment community, whether Jew or gentile, need to demonstrate that they understand how much is at stake in this by professionally shunning Mel Gibson and refusing to work with him, even if it means a sacrifice to their bottom line. "There are times in history when standing up against bigotry and racism is more important than money."}


How much more should this poor excuse for a human being Tammy Bruce be put in check? I want her to feel it where it hurts her most...financially. She would not feel empowered to make ridiculous and outrageous statements about the First Lady of the land if she knew there would be financial repercussions. She should be fired.
Silence is not an option here…action is needed, not just by black people but all Americans. I just don’t get it. I don't know about anyone else out there, but there is a fine line between freedom of speech and outright attacks on a group of people. I might not be Michelle Obama, but I can identify with her in many ways. I'm a college graduate, a working woman, a wife, a mother, and I am passionate about people. Does that make me trash??

Wednesday, March 25th 2009 at 12:13AM
Jen Fad
Mareta, if you think I'm saying its okay to insult black women, you're missing the point. My point is, check Bruce and move on. She's not that powerful, and she's not going to change any minds by whayt she says about Obama. I won't classify her as "dangerous" because she's run of the mill. If we got this up in arms abuot every right wingnut that came out and called the Obama a name we;d be wasting our energy. Theres' a lot going on; we need to pick our battles. In my opinion anyway.
Wednesday, March 25th 2009 at 10:13AM
..."if you think I'm saying its okay to insult black women, you're missing the point. My point is, check Bruce and move on"...

Brother Maxwell I don't think Marta or myself or any black woman for that matter would ever think you thought it was okay to insult a black woman. As handsome as you are, I am sure you're married with beautiful daughters...yes? God forgive me if I am wrong, but in my opinion when things are happening many feel that we should just ignore the person and hope that the person goes away without taking action while the person continues to gather people to themselves.

Isn’t this a form of apathy? Apathy it's plaguing many black communities and I just don’t understand why. Why must we have to wait until a situation is in dire straits before we take action? Perhaps we should call on the Rev. Al Sharpton or the Rev. Jessie Jackson to fight for First Lady Obama’s honor? In all seriousness, I am glad to know you will be one of the first to sign a petition defending First Lady Obama’s honor! Much love to you Brother Maxwell. (((smiles)))

Wednesday, March 25th 2009 at 12:07PM
Jen Fad
For anyone who cares to hear what Tammy Bruce said about First Lady Obama...click link below

Wednesday, March 25th 2009 at 1:13PM
Jen Fad
Hey Jen thanks for that. Yes, you got me right I am married and have a daughter and I also have my dear sweet mother, sisters, aunts, grandmothers (late) and have had teachers and all of them make me who I am today. And I’m still learning from them. I love these women for who they are and what they do for me, mine and us. My grandmother passed when I was 13 and yet I still can’t help but hear the things she taught me that served me well. I’m the last person who is going to tolerate the abuse of any sister. From anyone. Of course I’ll sign the petition.

Also, Marta may have my hide for this, as she is wont to do, but I’ll say there are few if any on this site who are as knowledgeable about politics and have participated in the processes as I have. I’ve knocked on doors, made calls and wrote letters. I’ve implored others on this site to do the same. I work with the board of elections in Chicago, and have been involved in every election since the 2000 debacle that brought us Bush. After that, I said never again. Let me be on the front lines. So we can set apathy aside. Forget that.

My point is, simply, this: I do not believe Bruce has the credibility to do any damage to the reputations of Michelle or Barack. I may be wrong, but that is how it appears to me. Yes, check that fool; call her out, for sure. But then move on. People like that live for the attention they get from outrageous behavior. Prior to this, when was the last time anyone on this site heard anything from Tammy Bruce? Other than being allowed to guest for Ingraham, what was the highest platform Bruce has had before this?

I also made the point on another post on this same subject that what Bruce really is about is jealousy and just plain old hatin’. And fear. Bruce and others are scared to death of Michelle Obama. People like that are pathetic and we only feed into their pathology by assigning a status to them they do not deserve. We hurt them more by treating them that way and not giving them the attention they think they’ll get by their outrageous behavior.

What I am saying is this, and maybe I’m wrong. Let me try to put it this way. If Imus had said that, or Limbaugh, or Ann Coulter even, then it would require the level of response being advocated here. I just do not believe Bruce is someone who has the impact that any of those characters would. I’m not saying to ignore her, and not saying to do nothing (apathy) but to have a measured response, relevant to the source. As I said to many friends when the campaign was under way, that if Obama got elected, yes, it would be an indication in some ways of racial progress, but at the same time we will see some of the worst acts of racism and hatred not seen since the 60s. That’s what’s happening now. We have a lot of fighting ahead of us. Maybe I’m wrong about Bruce, but I don’t think she’s worth the “dangerous” designation.

Now, let me close with this, for all else who may read these words and still choose to misinterpret, call me names, insult my intelligence, heap on the pithy putdowns. I don’t care; I’m tough. It rolls off like water. I laugh. But I am willing to accept that I might be wrong, so don’t waste time on the playground; bring the facts and prove it to me, otherwise I’m sticking to it.

Wednesday, March 25th 2009 at 1:56PM
Point "well" taken Brother Maxwell!! (((smiles)))
Wednesday, March 25th 2009 at 2:25PM
Jen Fad
I seem to never agree with Marta, so I must comment. Michelle Robinson gave a good looking light guy some joy and then marched him into Reverend Wrights Silliness, that almost cost the OBAMA family the Leadership of the WORLD. But a woman should just be waiting for a Man, at home, smelling good, clean and READY.
Wednesday, March 25th 2009 at 4:42PM
robert powell
Ur ok, today robert--you are right and u r agreeing with me--she needs to stay home and look pretty-take care of kids--and enjoy her non-paid- job that she was volunteered for! ok--just peeking in--too busy working on projects!!
Wednesday, March 25th 2009 at 5:49PM
Marta Fernandez
I go you beat Clark--I worked on Percy Sutton for Mayor in 1976. I worked for Assemblywoman Chris Giuchigliani, Assemblywoman Barbara Buckley, Mayor Jan Jones all Las Vegas, and was the Hispanic Representative for Former Governor Bob Miller D-Nevada-- your problem as I told you months ago and I was right I see you have a dismissive attitude toward women. I bet if you want to compare my curriculae vitae and education against yours I HAVE YOU BEAT-- You my dear have problem with smart intelligent women,I told you that before you denied it and told me about your sisters-so Ichilled,now you have proven by your remarks and the way I observe how you don't stand your ground when the men on the site opine differently--I can run circles around you any day of the week..starting with our convo on the cuban economy! LOL --this year on top of all my other degrees I am doing a Ph.d anda Master's in internet marketing you are not a match for me---love you to death--but I am a Goddessess and you are not unless you wear Victoria's in Secret! I have gone toe to toe against white men, you are a piece of cake.
Now about Michelle--all we have to do is sit back with our arms folded and watch--nes't ce-pas?
Wednesday, March 25th 2009 at 6:02PM
Marta Fernandez
ya let the white gal' bogard and get away with it! and that as Mozell would say" that's a wrap.ok--15 minutes of my time--buh-bye!
Wednesday, March 25th 2009 at 6:06PM
Marta Fernandez
I'll keep this short and just answer with Madea: It ain't what they call you; it's what you answer to.

And I hardly think Michelle Obama is giving this any consideration. I'm sure she doesn't call herself trash and probably found this so absolutely empty-minded and ridiculous, it's laughable.

This did not upset me. It made me laugh. Seriously...some woman I've never heard of speaking empty, useless words about a woman she obviously doesn't know. Talking about it only gives it power. The more talk that goes on about it, the more this silly woman's name gains momentum. I'd like to not give her that.

Thursday, March 26th 2009 at 1:12AM
Mr. Maxwell, I agree with you. Blow the dust off the counter and move on.

Thursday, March 26th 2009 at 1:15AM
Women haters. Female and Male. What a shame. YOU are not Michelle Obama hardly and will never be definitely. She is a note worthy individual as such she should have the backing of her sisters for one, and all decent people for another.

She was never homeless or had to live in the street- presumably. ::::::

As for Clark, u asked for it, as you well know from our convo's we are not on the same page as the folks who read this.

Sunday, March 29th 2009 at 3:12PM
Marta Fernandez
I came back to this because of you Irma. I had left this blog because it wass getting out of hand, and now I see the level of hysteria that was going on. Amazing.

Thursday, April 9th 2009 at 11:18AM
I will put it this way...This person (Tammy Bruce)is RIGHT in step with the closed and prejudice minds of the CONSERVATIVES. If she had said anything that was different than what those on the right has to say about 'anyone' who are Democrats, then I would be worrried-suprised or even concerned!Because, this would be a sign that we as free peoples have something to content with:something NEW and worth paying attention to from the other side of this political, public interest equation.
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
Marta, Marta, Marta...NOw that Tammy seem to be the apple of Bill O'Reilly's eye Tammy may be replacing Laura on Bill's THE FACTOR...who knows thesse two may end up calling each other names.that is if Bill is able to keep his program.The news papers seem to be joining UPS in dropping O'Reilly. Media racist leading media racist off of our public air waves...
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